Saturday, June 5, 2010

Is Justice In or Out?

With 7 Billion plus is Justice In or Out?
By R. Ashok Kumar, B.E.,M.E(Power), Negentropist, Bombay Sarvodaya Mandal,
299, Tardeo Road, Nana Chowk, Mumbai-400007. Tel: 02223872061
30 May 2010
Copyright ©2019 Ramaswami Ashok Kumar
Keys: Civilisation,modern and normal;knowledge,true and imperfect;GMOs,Nuclear power,dams,TENORM,risks.

“He who knows not,
and knows not that he knows not,
is a fool; shun him.

He who knows not,
and knows that he knows not,
is a student; Teach him.

He who knows,
and knows not that he knows,
is asleep; Wake him.

He who knows,
and knows that he knows,
is Wise; Follow him.”


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Modern Civilisation is abnormal. The biggest culprit is specialisation - a specialist society, a new caste system infinitely more dangerous than that in the Hindu religion. Knowledge in such a society is imperfect. It sees the separate existences apart and seeing them apart, holds it to be true. Whereas a normal civilisation is based on true knowledge: To see one changeless life in all the lives, in the separate,the one inseparable. The aim of normal life is to live in health here and now by designing around our ignorance(1). The aim of the modern is to commercialise everything, even life(2). While in the USA and similarly placed nations(so far a handful) Genetic Modification(GM) has widely infiltrated into food, India is in the comfortable position of self sufficiency in non-GM food assuming a responsible public distribution system is put in place soon so that the poorest of the poor are healthy with access to healthy affordable food here and now(hence non GMOs(Genetically Modified Organisms)). There is absolutely no case for GMOs in India, she being the home of many foods including grains, fruits and vegetables in plentiful supply.
In the process of profiteering, imperfect knowledge never ever graduates to perfect knowledge(It is highly profitable to have an ill informed public). So imperfect knowledge sows the seeds of the destruction of modern civilisation. “Given enough time, modern civilisation will destroy itself”, as Mahatma Gandhi put it way back in 1908. But the destruction takes in its wake prematurely more than 4 billion lives as three identical predictions made by eminent social observers in vastly differing times and spaces indicate: Vyasa (3200 BC), Vira Brahmendra Yogi(1560 AD) and Nostradamus(1560AD). After the transition now in force from a way of life based on untruth to one based on truth, the remaining human beings will perforce abide by the truth.
Mahatma Gandhi’s vision of the normal ensured that all activities were geared to better the condition of the poorest of the poor here and now. He made enjoyment of living energy of the mind and body central to a normal civilisation which was based on the principle of return-return all you took in a form useful to life always. His constructive work gave life to handloom cloth and small self sufficient communities.
The good life based on the inseparability of its members does not allow inferior ways of life like the following:
1. Destruction of forests even for a good reason and carrying on with less efficient ways of living on such land.
2. Transforming groundwater storage to surface waters through a massive programme of dam building.
3. Make many activities of modern civilisation dependent on centralised generation via distribution schemes in low efficiency equipment like vapour compression air conditioning.
4. Gargantuan demands of water for various felt needs like irrigated agriculture, industry
including thermal and nuclear power station programmes which are forever net energy consumers when the overall inputs and outputs are included in an energy audit including wastes of the overall process.
This results in increasing requirements of other forms of electricity production to meet nuclear industry demand.
5. Enormous electricity production in this way results in need for enormous capacity installation of hydro-generation to meet sudden energy and power demand changes simultaneously across nations.
6. Sudden electricity demands and other consumptive industrial and domestic water needs
simultaneously across nations cause sudden surges of water pressure at the centres of gravity of water masses behind dams. Such sudden water pressure changes amount to order of magnitude higher water presssure heads than the height of Mount Everest every second( of the order of magnitude of 100 kilometers every second). The forces and bending moments unleashed are of the same order as for earthquakes, including major to great earthquakes. These enormous sledge hammer effects cause surges of Love and Raleigh waves to travel continually through the crust of the earth, causing enormous friction heat to be developed across every fault they encounter. Such processes result in hotspots across the globe, in a positive feedback to the earth’s intrinsic control mechanism resulting in rock melts and earthquakes. Such shocks cause strains to rise in surges across the globe. These result in further hotspots. The temperature differentials result in cyclones, hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, landslides,
tsunamis, fires,deaths and destruction very very frequently. As dams and power stations continue to increase, these problems intensify catastrophically. These are the safety lacunae not addressed by water demands met by dams. Such weather changes on a continuous basis are major components of what is being experienced as climate change by man.
7. Such man-made natural disasters are resulting in sudden hotspot clusters affecting even
airplanes,when they pass through such sudden steep gradients.
8. Such sudden surges go beyond the design basis envelopes of airplanes,trains,buildings,bridges.
These result in crashes,derailments,destructive fires,bridge collapses(To get a sense of the problem see, and ).
9.When devastating earthquakes begin to occur at nuclear power station locations, the nukes go
beyond their design basis envelopes and explode spewing into the globe far and wide catastrophic amounts of radioactivity, making everything radioactive(Genpatsu Shinsai/Chernobyl Syndrome). People then do not know whether to go in out. At Kashiwazaki Kariwa in Japan this scenario came near to occurring. And Fukushima is worse than Chernobyl.
The 20 km radius evacuation zone around the stricken nuclear park at Fukushima means a potential forest with enough biomass density to be a 1200 GW power flow has been replaced by a death dealing big big radiation zone for a long time- not even a 9.9 GW nuclear plant! Japanese want a phase out of the permanent waste park that nuclear plants in Japan and elsewhere are!
10. One of the most destructive features of modern civilisation is that its designs are based on ignorance of their effects in practice. The other classic example apart from nuclear power programmes is the GMO. So many GMOs have come into ignorant public use based on witchcraft. Example: In deep ignorance it was assumed that GMOs and traditional foods are substantially equivalent, based on a false central dogma of molecular biology, which claimed a gene to behave in isolation in the production of a protein. By 2009, the specialists found that the gene is networked. This gave rise to the serendipity that a gene which had a certain characteristic in a certain host when introduced into another organism
resulted in a product new to nature! Note that all the while nature is working while the specialist
revelled in ignorance of her workings and based his designs of nuclear reactor fuel cycles and GMOs on premises based on ignorance-witchcraft. And subjected millions of people and animals to dangerous tremendously increased health risks. Totally unpardonable! Untested new organisms were put up in the market cleared by the relevant food and drug administrations. Does it ring a bell with BP gulf gush? There is nothing more tragic than ignorance in action.
11.The ENCODE and GRID projects not only brought out the ignorance of the specialists regarding the true nature of GMOs and nuclear risks, but also the false premises on which safety regulations of such activities are based. Internal radiation contamination played havoc on the networked gene. The introduced gene into the traditional food became infinitely dangerous to life.The so-called junk DNAs were active participants in the DNA processes of metabolism and non-clonal reproduction and created risks which were found to be orders of magnitude higher than that assumed by the ICRP regulations which were really PRE-DNA witchcraft based on extrapolating the effects of external radiation! This paralled the false and unsafe presumption of GMOs being substantially equivalent to traditional foods and crops.
Why are GMOs not the way to make food?
Because in nature everything is interconnected. So really nature puts a limit to the direction in which life evolves. So tearing a gene apart from one seemingly separate life form and introducing it forcibly into another, breaks this rigid interconnection which assures health here and now! Since the effects of interconnection in resulting in evolved health are unknowable because of the myriad interconnections and we have to eat the successful foods to live in health here and now, we must design around our ignorance by practicing the principle of return. Hence GMOs are not food. They are by the application of the precautionary principle something which we must avoid. Hence the normal way of life(1).
12. What then is the priority for countries like India?
The Public Distribution System(PDS) must be assured to help better the nutritional status of the poorest of the poor members of the community so that the human rights are not trampled upon. The PDS must have as its input healthy food.
13. Take up the millennium challenge to live in small or manageably small self-sufficient communities and design around your ignorance so you can live in health here and now. Health is not just absence of disease- it is a state of mind and body in harmony with nature.
1.R. Ashok Kumar.1986. Gandhi Marg.
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2. Pallab Ghosh.24May 2010. BBC News.Synthetic life patents ‘damaging’).
3.G. S. Roshan.CC Issue 28 May 2010.A New Era for Indian Farms-Sponsored by Craig Venter: ).
4. Devinder Sharma. CC Issue 23 May 2010. Artificial Life is Simply Not Another Breaking News.It has Grave Implications For Humanity. )
5.Van Tassel, Katharine A., Genetically Modified Food, Risk Assessment and Scientific Uncertainty Principles: Does the New Understanding of the Networked Gene Trigger the Need for Post-Market Surveillance to Protect Public Health? (July 7, 2009). Boston University Journal of Science and Technology Law, Vol. 15, pp. 220-251, 2009. Available at SSRN:
Also go to the references which are available when you Google Search on RAMASWAMI ASHOK
KUMAR and click on his complete profile.


Ramaswami Ashok Kumar said...

This what is lacking: Information must be issued prior to decision by farmers as to the unacceptability of Bt.
They must be told why nature is best. And the way to prevent diseases in plants by practicing diversity and return.
To replace nature which has evolved brinjal over millions of years by a technological product which is immature and irreversibly dangerous and whose composition is not told to them is a crime lasting generations. Bt just does not recognise the unknowable nature of the myriad interconnections! See Is Justice In or Out?/Ramaswami Ashok Kumar.

Ramaswami Ashok Kumar said...


India must never degenerate to gene editing. We must regenerate degraded nature ecologically. We have a task of reverdure ahead of us and ecology restoration and bringing back species. The problem is brought out in Is Justice In or Out?/Author. It is Goedel and the Gita. SEE

Ramaswami Ashok Kumar said...

And so finally modern civilization is shut down by modern civilization which ensured Nature to send out the Coronaviruses EVERYWHERE! Mahatma Gandhi, your prophecy of 1908 has come true in 2020. Will the wild men will continue to hold sway in a business as usual?

Ramaswami Ashok Kumar said...

In the absence of challenge by public interest science such biased reports are given the status of a neutral value free scientific truth. See Ramaswami Ashok Kumar.2020. Reforest Mother Earth to Live: UN GENERAL ASSEMBLY MUST ENACT ECOLOGY LAW FOR SPECIES SURVIVAL. Blogspot. Link:

Ramaswami Ashok Kumar said...


India is the home of brinjal. Field trials are terribly unsafe in India where land is scarce. Public Interest Science has proved that Bt is a farce. See Ramaswami Ashok Kumar.2010. Is Justice In or Out? BlogSpot. It is obvious that Shri Javadekarji is fundamentally mistaken about the true state of affairs on the ground regarding GM Trojan Horse! It is real public interest science which has come out and said that GM trials cannot be allowed. The science that Javadekar is speaking about is specialist nonsense, not science. Please be creative and not be presumptous and blurt out what some people have learned by rote. At this rate, the present government cannot be trusted to deliver for the good of all life.The left hand of the government does not know what the right hand is doing! The proper way of life as enunciated in the sara of the Gita: There is true knowledge and things are rigidly interconnected in nature and there is one changeless life in all the lives.In the separate there is the one inseparable. There is imperfect knowledge on which GM Trojan Horse will result and cannot be wished away: The existences are separate and non interacting and that is the truth! Practice before you administer and practice the truth. Science has pronounced GM is poison and stop it. Nature knows best and tinkering with it and to see whether the game change works is witchcraft and the trials will continue ad infinitum! To get rid of enemies, remove the root cause: modern civilization which is committing suicide. Before the specialists kill us all take note of what they have done: COVID19 pandamic caused by dams which cried a halt to modern civilization. Before this governance kills us all, they must be reformed,now.

Ramaswami Ashok Kumar said...

See how it is impossible to make safe crops with either gene editing or other GM techniques at
Ramaswami Ashok Kumar.2010.Is Justice In or Out?
With 7 Billion plus is Justice In or Out? at the link:
It is fortunate that aware citizens can on the internet publish their researches which are based on public interest science like those which discuss Kurt Goedel's set theorem to disprove once and for all the possibility of safe food production by GMOs or gene editing. It is of limited use to quote so called eminent specialists or what the specialists call subject matter experts. It is time citizens are asked for their considered views which hardly are piecemeal analyses. The whole is more than the sum of the parts. Public Interest Science must be the basis of all policies. Or else human suffering through COVID19 and the synergisms with other contaminants of the earth will continue. Buying truce with vaccines may not always be greeted with luck before the wild man- nature's junior partner becomes extinct.

Ramaswami Ashok Kumar said...
Regarding Hurdles Again: One step forward, two backward sums up India’s sporadic trysts with transgenic crop trials
March 24, 2021, 8:21 PM IST TOI Edit in TOI Editorials, Edit Page, India, Times View, TOI,
Nothing can be more nonsensical than this slanted piece full of unsubstantiated assertions about vested interest science which is really downright witchcraft which forces us to be labrats just as the present vaccine tamasha of modern civilization. You, like a bought over journal, will not refer to public interest science findings on GMOs which discards GMOs as just plain stupid like we are experiencing the effects of these vaccines. First modern civilization forces dams on mother earth which resulted in 1918 in the American Flu Pandemic and public interest findings are disregarded by the specialists of modern civilization till we arrive at a bigger hit- the COVID 19 Pandamic throwing all these allopaths and incompetent others into PANIC of changing the goal posts- chintajanak asymptomagic!. Similar panic was and is being witnessed with regard to every other activity of modern civilization: GMOs which are another piece of a giant warfare- ecological evolutionary war on the earth. See the idiocy of modern civilization’s vested interest science at Ref 1.
1. Ramaswami Ashok Kumar.2010. Is Justice In or Out? at the Link:

Ramaswami Ashok Kumar said...


There is a long way to go before such tinkering with nature is proved through Goedel's set finding and the sacred Gita's lesson on true knowledge. Remember that the human and other beings are the evolutionary products rigidly interconnected. In the meanwhile, the specialists are forewarned not to wage a biological warfare and they must undo the damage done by illegal or legal field trials contaminating food.

Ramaswami Ashok Kumar said...


There is a long way to go before such tinkering with nature is proved through Goedel's set finding and the sacred Gita's lesson on true knowledge. Remember that the human and other beings are the evolutionary products rigidly interconnected.
We must changeover from the modern to the normal way of life. Because the modern is khudkushi(suicide). We must depecialize our vision and create over and above all specializations a research and applications centre(rac) in each and every ecological setting typified by a village. Muse over this: Not just an iari but a rac. And use public interest science(pis) and not vested interest science (vis). And the survival mantra is nature is development: See

Modern and Normal Civilizations

Reproduced from GANDHI MARG. May 1986. Pp 70-92 with updates:

Ashok Kumar R. 1986. Modern Civilization and Normal Civilization: The Need for Small Self-Sufficient Communities. GANDHI MARG. Vol. 8. No.2. May 1986. Pp 70-92.

Date of issue of the web version: 1 September 2006

The quote from the article is worth a thought:
In its helplessness, modern civilization has laid bare the seeds of a new civilization. In India modern civilization has destroyed many of our small communities and built over them unwieldy big cities. The flow of life-giving energy and materials became invisible in this macro world. Trying desperately to make visible the causes of its ills, modern science is busy traversing the micro world only to succeed in showing large gaps in vitally needed information on flow of vital substances. Thus modern civilization is synonymous with blindly groping forward only to be stumped or bowled neck and crop. By choosing the macro- the big city- when it should have improved upon small communities, that is, the micro-it showed its greed. Now by choosing the micro- the synthesis of soil by artificial means, the chemical fertilizers, the trace elements, the destruction of micro-organisms, after exhausting the topsoil by conveying it through the food via the supermarket to the sewer and thence to the seas, it has again proved its inadequacy in the building up of wholesome food by technological means. Here instead of choosing the micro- it should have chosen the macro-keeping the fertility of the soil intact and whole by recirculating the domestic wastes back to the soil in small self-sufficient communities- a long- term sufficiency in a healthy wholeness and convivial symbiosis. The macro here is the small self-sufficient community which takes care of security by designing around our ignorance of the micro-details of life processes. Thus the modern civilization has characteristically broken the small self-sufficient community neatly into two insolvable problems-the sprawling big city at the macro level and ignorance of the fate of essential life-giving substances at the micro level. They can only be solved by falling back on a post modern concept- the village of Mahatma Gandhi. The sooner we adopt our traditional culture with a new knowledge of the imminent demise of modern civilization, so much to the better for the health of all life for a long time to come.